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Proton Gen2August 2008

Avoid.

Welcome to the world's most expensive cheap car.

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Proton Gen2
 
 

Fifth Gear Proton Gen2 review

 
 
1. Styling is quite neat
2. Gearbox is pretty good
3. That's about it

WE DON'T LIKE

1. British Leyland build quality
2. Prices are somewhere between optimistic and psychotic
3. General air of cluelessness
 
 

Proton nearly dropped out of the UK market altogether a few years ago when their increasingly expensive and dated cars started to look completely outclassed by the opposition. However, having bought Lotus to provide some engineering expertise they have tried to relaunch themselves with a new generation of models spearheaded by the Gen-2 (subtext of the name: this is a new type of Proton not to be confused with the old models).

If only. Although there have been improvements in some areas, the Gen-2 has actually managed the near-impossible task of being a retrograde step overall. The main reason for this is the build quality, which is so bad you cannot believe anyone would think it acceptable in today's market. To see just one example, check out our little video of the fuel filler cap vibrating in the breeze like a piece of tin foil. Okay, a fuel filler cap is not vitally important, but how about the driver's door panel that had come adrift from its mountings, the bonnet that was visibly askew, or the trim on the rear seats that had apparently been cut to shape with a blunt Stanley knife... These were just the bits you could see, so how badly assembled were the out-of-sight mechanicals? The disturbing graunching sound from (we guess) the thermostatic fan bearing provided little reassurance on that score.

Assuming that you are prepared to take a three wise monkey's approach to the build quality - see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil - how does it actually drive? First of all, you have to get past the driving position, which is just plain wrong. For taller drivers the seat is way too high relative to the steering wheel, meaning the wheel ends up between the drivers knees - a bit like some Japanese cars of the 1980s. On the plus side, the gearbox is quite nice, but that is about all you could say in the car's favour. The engine is reasonably powerful on paper (110 bhp from 1.6 litres is quite respectable), but pretty unrefined and thrashy if you want to extract a decent proportion of the available performance. The handling and steering are OK but, lets face it, no-one interested in dynamic performance would come within a country mile of this car.

The overall impression of the Gen-2 is that is has been developed on a different planet to almost any other mainstream model on sale in the UK. The engineering is lowest common denominator and the build quality is a throwback to the days of the Austin Allegro. The only modern aspect of the car is the price, which is well beyond merely optimistic. The price is £10,995 at the time of writing, or around 70% of the price of a base Golf Factor in the depreciation that has traditionally afflicted Protons (one guide quotes the trade-in value of a three year old Gen 2 at a catastrophic 26% of its new price), and the Gen-2 is actually as expensive over three years as mainstream models which are vastly superior products. Unless you happen to live next door to a Proton dealership, whose owner is a family member, you would be better off buying something else. In fact, almost anything else.

In a world full of extremely competent Skodas, Hyundais and Kias, there is really no need to choose something that feels like a latter-day Lada.

Check out our video of the Gen2 fuel filler cap

Fifth Gear overall car ratings

STYLING

The least bad feature of the car - hardly eye-catching, but neat and contemporary.

HANDLING

Obscure Asian tyres don't do the roadholding any favours, but it points well enough at moderate speeds.

COMFORT

Assuming you don't cut yourself on any of the hard interior plastics, it is reasonably comfortable, with sporty, high-back seats in the upmarket versions. The suspension is not the most compliant, but it's not terrible overall. If you don't mind the unscheduled noises the rest of the car makes, the engine note should present no problems.

QUALITY & RELIABILITY

Truly, madly, deeply awful. From the nasty featherweight little key to the way the boot crashes shut, you just cannot believe that anyone could still make a car this way. In the past, Protons had a reputation for not breaking down but, on this evidence, we are making no predictions as to the longevity of current versions.

PERFORMANCE

Performance is available if you are prepared to rag the engine, but you could hardly call it willing. Loud engine noise dissuades you from using all 110 bhp.

ROOMINESS

Assuming you are the same shape as the people who designed the car, and you can get comfortable in the driver's seat, interior room is perfectly adequate. However, nobody from our office (or any other magazine we have come across) happens to be that shape.

STEREO / SAT NAV

The stereo comes from Blaupunkt, which is a relief. It works pretty well although, as the only high-point of the cabin, it has been rather over-designed.

RUNNING COSTS

Fuel economy is fairly average for a 1.6 petrol - but, of course, there is no diesel option. The real killer will be depreciation - believe us, no-one queues to buy a used Gen-2.

VALUE FOR MONEY

There is no way this is worth up to £11,000. In the rest of Europe, you can buy the similarly-sized, but far better-made Renault Logan for the equivalent of £7,000. We reckon that would be about right for the Gen-2 - at least for people that prefer lots of electronic toys to fundamental design quality.

ENVIRONMENT

If this is Generation 2, then the rest of the segment is up to Generation 4. You can buy a Porsche with lower emissions.

This review has been tagged with: Proton | Proton Gen2

There are 11 variants of the Gen2

Gen2 variants Price (£) Fuel type Engine
size (cc)
CO2 emission
(g/km)
1.3 GLS 5dr £9,195 1332 164
1.6 GLS 5dr £10,195 1597 170
1.6 GLS ecoLogic 5dr £10,195 1597 170
1.6 GSX 5dr £11,195 1597 170
1.6 GSX ecoLogic 5dr £11,195 1597 170
1.6 Persona 4dr £11,195 1597 157
1.6 Persona ecoLogic 4dr £11,195 1597 157
1.6 GSX Auto 5dr £11,995 1597 184
1.6 GSX ecoLogic Auto 5dr £11,995 1597 184
1.6 Persona Auto 4dr £11,995 1597 161
1.6 Persona ecoLogic Auto 4dr £11,995 1597 161
 

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nnn
1

the poor saloon quality does not necessarily indicating poor mechanical or engineering quality .

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Alvin22
4

Well, in Malaysia, where I live, there is the Proton Exora MPV nad it's coming to UK soon and it is very clever with a TV behind and like the Merc S- class, POST-SAFE! It will unlock the doors after a accident and turn on the hazards.It has a Euro NCAP safety rating of 4 stars.

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mark
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I agree with some of things said. SOME! The engine is quite responsive without 'ragging it'. As for the un-fitting body work are you sure you didn't get an accident damaged one? for the money it is quite a lot of car. I wish they had put a way to open the boot without havin to open the drivers door that's my only gripe! looks good, handles great (once you've changed the tyres)

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shamri
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why proton made such this car for Malaysian?

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Louis
1

this because is malaysia make it. malay make it they jst consider the outlook, but outlook doesn't seen look good. This the top quality that Proton make, 1 malaysia, malaysia boleh.

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Andries
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I own a Proton Gen 2 2008 model and I am highly satisfied with the vehicle. The only problem is that the spares are a little on the expensive side. I enjoy driving this vehicle as well as my 65 year old mother loves the driving experience.

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geb
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Proton sucks!!

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Gavin
1

car is disgusting inside, terrible quality.. so unrealiable and just generally awful, terrible build quailty aswell, terrible ride, sardine tin with the most terrible engine EVER made bolted into it, proton fail, if you buy a proton you are without question an imbecile

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